I have to admit that having the Impact, Red Circle and other incarnations of the Archie heroes (except Dark Circle which I could not get in the UK) I think the reasons why all of them "failed" are quite easy to spot. The Rich Buckler 1980s run was excellent but when Archie got rid of him it fell apart in the very first issue.
Buckler did a more serious interpretation of characters from the 1960s when the Fly etc went from serious stories and tried to follow the "camp" style of the 1960s Batman TV show. In fact several US comic companies tried this and all failed within a few issues. Like copying what is going on in the movies today which lost Marvel a lot of long time fans, copying a humour TV show did not work. It just couldn't but it is the constant attempt to get more readers and their money based on the movies and those who go to the movies do not read comics.
The idea I put to Archie was to continue the 1960s/1980s timeline but with some novel additions -although rejected two of the ideas popped up in Archie comics later on. The thing you have to remember is bringing in the kids of the old super heroes is not guaranteeing bringing in young readers in their droves. Readers want action and adventure with interesting plot twists BUT remaining true to the old characters as rebooting has never been a success in comics.
My ideas are still on file somewhere in Room Oblivion and it's a pity I never got to write the scripts as these were characters I loved from the moment I first ran into them in the early 1970s.
I think that someone misunderstood. I LOVE the old Archie/MLJ Mighty Crusaders and 1980s Red Circle Crusaders. I just have not read the current versions. But what an excuse to re-post!
Someone said they could not find my article on the 1960s MLJ Mighty Crusaders. So,presenting for the second time,”Too Many Super Heroes”!
THE MIGHTY CRUSADERS –Too Many Super Heroes?
My first introduction to Mighty Comics and its characters came while purchasing the black and white reprints of Alan Class such as SUSPENSE [you can learn more at -http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alanclasscomics] However, around 1971 I walked into a bookseller that also stocked back issue comics. It was in one box that I found MIGHTY CRUSADERS #4 [April,1966].This comic really hit my button!
There were heroes I had never seen or heard of before such as MR JUSTICE, FIREBALL, INFERNO and FIREFLY, BLACK JACK and my all time image favourite: The FOX! Twenty-one heroes, plus two former heroes-turned-villains: HANGMAN and The WIZARD [a cheat here since the Golden Age goody WIZARD turned up at the end to defeat his future evil counterpart!].
Yes, it was Jerry Ess writing but I still enjoy the comic and only now does it read rather inane in places. Paul Are did the art chores and I must admit that Are and Reinman have come in for a great deal of stick over the years but they did the job! I love their stuff and it was only in 2004 that I got a copy of MIGHTY CRUSADERS #4 to replace the one destroyed years before.
Someone, I am sure, will correct me if I am wrong, but the internal squabbling and fighting of the Crusaders pre-empted the Captain America, Hawkeye, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch AVENGERS team? I know I kept thinking “why can’t they just work together?” but it was still enjoyable –like squabbling kids in the age group the comics were aimed at! It was like your gang, friends but fights breaking out amongst the members.
There was more, though; one thing that always sticks in my mind is the difficulty two of the characters had in private. BILL HIGGINS, aka THE SHIELD, had to constantly get fired for fouling up haircuts and more so that he could get into costume and away –in this aptly titled “TOO MANY SUPER HEROES”, Bill is a removal man who has to fumble and smash a mirror. I always felt sorry for him.
Then there was JOHN RAYMOND, aka THE WEB. Poor John, his wife was somewhat of a nagger but also highly strung. John had to constantly slip away from Rosie, a woman he dearly loved, and leave the dishes to return to adventuring.
Okay, the story was a series of in-fights but there were the villains. I was glad to see the HANGMAN become a hero again in the 1980s Red Circle run. However, his team up with the now villainous WIZARD was interesting. That, at the end of this story,ROY THE MIGHTY BOY appears from the past, followed by the Golden Age WIZARD was a very nice touch indeed.The splash page to Part Three shows a lovely use of blacks by Are and I think the reason this particular issue sticks in my memory is the story and art and the feel of the mid-1960s and the so-called “camp” hero period that ran alongside the imaginative story telling and art of Marvel Comics.
What might the MIGHTY CRUSADERS have been like had Jack Kirby been drawing or even drawing and writing the series?I also sit back and, looking at this and the other MCG titles, wonder why Archie has never tried to pull together this original series, the one of the 1980s and produce an “Essentials” style black and white book?
There are also the appearances of a more cohesive Crusaders team in ARCHIE WEIRD MYSTERIES #3 and 14. What a book that would make!!Never was there ever a gathering of super heroes in a MCG title again. Odd how time plays with your memories but I thought there were far more heroes in this issue!!
If you can get a copy of this comic- do! This is certainly one of my all-time 1960s favourites and I’m glad I managed to find a replacement copy.
That’s a little piece of the comic mind of Terry Hooper!
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