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Thursday 18 December 2014

Buying Comics Because It's Your "Retirement Investment"? You're Being Conned!

This article from last year on the Bloomberg Business site and, basically, reinforces everything I've written about.  Lots of New Comic Chique Geeks are being ripped off -especially on Ebay and internet comic stores.  "This Avengers comic is hot! It'll be worth thousands if not hundreds!"

Anyway, read and weep.

Those Comics in Your Basement? Probably Worthless


Those Comics in Your Basement? Probably Worthless
Photograph by Paul Carstairs

Barry T. Smith, 44, spent most of his life collecting comic books. And he always considered them an investment. “These books would someday be college tuition, or a house down payment,” Smith remembers thinking. “I would lay them all out in my parents’ living room, sorting them, cataloging them, writing down entries on graph paper while cross-referencing them against the Overstreet Price Guide.”

After college he landed a tech job in Silicon Valley but held on to all 1,200 of his comics, including several hundred early issues of Marvel’s (DIS) X-Men, which his research suggested had grown in value every year. The comics sat in a storage unit, boarded and bagged, for close to two decades. When Smith found himself unemployed and in need of money to support his wife and two daughters, he decided the time was right to cash in on his investment.

The entire collection sold for about $500. “I’m not too proud to admit, I cried a bit,” Smith says.
He’s not the only would-be investor who’s discovered in recent years that his comic collection isn’t worth nearly as much as he’d hoped. Kevin J. Maroney, 47, of Yonkers, N.Y., decided to sell 10,000 comics, roughly a third of his collection, on consignment with various comic book stores in Manhattan. Thus far, fewer than 300 have sold for a total of about $800. He’s not surprised by the lack of interest. “A lot of people my age, who grew up collecting comics, are trying to sell their collections now,” says Maroney, who works in IT support for Piper Jaffray. “But there just aren’t any buyers anymore.”

Frank Santoro, a columnist for the Comics Journal and an avid collector himself, has noticed the same trend. “More and more of these types of collections are showing up for sale,” he says. “And they’re becoming more and more devalued. The prices are dropping.” He recently had to break the bad news to a friend’s uncle, who was convinced his comic collection—about 3,000 books—was worth at least $23,000. “I told him it was probably more like $500,” Santoro says. “And a comic book store would probably only offer him $200.”

Stories like these are a stark contrast to what’s typically reported. To go by media accounts, 2013 has been a huge year for the vintage comic market. A Minnesota man found a copy of Action Comics No. 1—the first appearance of Superman, published in 1938—in a wall of his house and sold it for $175,000 in June. Three decades ago a different copy of the same comic sold for about $5,000, a record at the time. In August, meanwhile, Heritage Auctions hosted a comic-oriented event in Dallas where a highly-graded copy of the 1940 comic Batman No. 1 sold for a staggering $567,625. A recent piece on the Wall Street Journal’s MarketWatch website was especially enthusiastic about comics as an investment strategy, calling them “more predictable than stocks” and “recession-proof.” Old comics, the author suggested, could even save your home from foreclosure.

Outlandish claims and tales of amazing windfalls elicit only groans from Rob Salkowitz, a business analyst and author of Comic-Con and the Business of Pop Culture. He also happens to be, in his own words, “a guy in his 40s with a basement full of old comics.” He warns that too many people have been deluded into thinking they are sitting on a comic book gold mine.

“There are two markets for comic books,” Salkowitz says. “There’s the market for gold-plated issues with megawatt cultural significance, which sell for hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of dollars. But that’s a very, very, very limited market. If a Saudi sheik decides he needs Action Comics No. 1, there are only a few people out there who have a copy.” And then there’s the other market, where most comics change hands for pennies and nobody is getting rich or even breaking even. “The entire back-issues market is essentially a Ponzi scheme,” Salkowitz says. “It’s been managed and run that way for 35 years.”

Bill Boichel, the owner of Pittsburgh’s Copacetic Comics, argues that transactions involving high-profile vintage comics happen in an entirely separate market. “Ultra-high-grade books sell for as much or more than ever to doctors, lawyers, brokers, and bankers,” he says. Comics like The Amazing Spider-Man No. 1—an Ohio man recently auctioned a copy for $7,900 to help pay for his daughter’s wedding—are considered a “blue chip stock of high liquidity, in that there is always a ready buyer for it.”

4 comments:

  1. That´s why I have my good comics in my work room and not in the basement. If you keep them in the basement they become worthless !

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  2. Well, if I could sell some of my comics for what is being asked on ebay I'd be happy. It's all a con and in about 5-10 years people will be selling for pennies (some are now because the fad wore off).

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  3. Now is not a good time to sell your comics because everybody is doing it. So there are a lot of collections out there and a lot of old comics. It is the reason why I am looking for those issues I´m missing - your chances of finding the comic issues you are looking for at a low price are now better than ever. It´s always been a rule that in times when people and economy are in financial crisis it is best to buy comics - not to sell them. On the other hand a lot of people do not have a choice and so sell their precious collection.

    When you reach a certain age you realize that you have to make a decision of which comics you will keep and which you won´t but you also know when to sell and when not to sell. I guess right now I have a lot of stuff I will never read or I don´t want in my collection anymore. But I also know that I will probably not get much for it. So unless it´s something I hate so much I have to get rid of it or I can give away for free to somebody who needs it I´m holding on to it.

    I mean there are issues where I now have them in trade or hardcover but I still won´t let go of them because I don´t want to have gaps in my collection. Of course there are exceptions like DARK AVENGERS - oh, wait, there are two or three issues that are not in the DARK AVENGERS collection. Never mind. In some cases it´s issues where you have a lot of double page spreads which don´t work so well in the collected format. Like with George Perez´ LEGION OF THREE WORLDS. In other cases like the first ULTIMATES series I wouldn´t mind selling the single issues but I guess everybody already has them.

    Which reminds me : Yesterday I was leafing through the second volume hardcover and two pages had stuck together. I managed to pull them apart but now the color has come off in little pieces on the top and the bottom of the page. And I was thinking : " Now it´s ruined and I have to buy a new one. "

    Am I a hopeless case of comic collectoritis because of that ?

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  4. The guy who found a copy of Action Comics #1 in a wall cavity would've got more for it if it hadn't been damaged in a tug-of-war with his brother. What a couple of diddies.

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